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Curious from people who follow its development closely.
- What protocol are about to be finally implemented?
- Which ones are still a struggle?
- How many serious protocols are there missing?
Been working great for me for ~1 year on my desktop and closer to 2-3 on my laptop.
The only thing missing for me was Barrier for input sharing, which libei is supposed to fix. I ended up going for a hardware solution as Barrier is jank af anyway.
Only thing not working for me is HDR (should be fixed in Plasma 6.1), not like you could do HDR on Xorg anyway. Also no HDMI 2.1 but that's because fuck the HDMI Forum.
Performance-wise, just blows away Xorg in every metric, and explicit sync should make that even better.
I've had this same issue on Gentoo and now on Alpine, both with plasma 6 (Wayland). Pipewire and plasma 6 seem to be working as intended other than that... Any help would be appreciated!
E: the issue is plasma 6 exclusive, I have hyprland installed along side it and screensharing works just fine there
The KDE team has already determined that this is not a bug and that both you and me must just be imagining it:
This might be a really stupid noob question, but I am looking to move to Linux from Windows/Mac, and am about to install an SSD into my very old test machine for Linux distros.
My test box still has a working HDD in it, so no action is required immediately.
But my question is: once I decide on a distro and start moving machines over to Linux, what kind of manual care do I have to put in to maintain my SSD drives, if any?
For each box with a SSD drive and Linux as the OS, do I need to do TRIM manually, do I need to turn it on for a "set and forget" type scenario, or are recent and regularly upgraded distros able to spot a SSD and do the necessary without my intervention?
I guess what I'm really asking is: is SSD TRIM support pretty much standard now across distros, or is it something I need to investigate individually for each distro I install?
I recognize I may just need to ask this again once I settle on a distro, but since I'm trying so many -- and may fully install more than one -- I thought I'd get a jump on it.
EDITED TO ADD: Many thanks to all who took the time to answer. Now I know exactly what to read up on, and if necessary, look up how to do manually for whatever distro(s) I settle on. I -really- appreciate the help. Thank you!
Excellent question, and for people who have SSDs it's worth knowing the answer.
Very simply, SSDs store data differently than HDDs, and when a file is removed, sectors on SSDs have to be explicitly cleared instead of simply waiting to be overwritten like on HDDs. Not doing so on a regular basis decreases the lifespan of the SSD. Crucial (a SSD manufacturer) explains it here much better than I can:
https://www.crucial.com/articles/about-ssd/what-is-trim
The Trim command is used with Active Garbage Collection to clean up SSDs to ensure they continue to work quickly. Find out more with Crucial.Crucial
I think that’s built into the calendar in lxqt.
I usually just do a sleep for the time length then a, 07 or bel.
A Shell DSL that transforms into Python.
I created this IDE to spin up Tkinter UIs or anything Python with less boilerplate and rich cognitive and efficiency shortcuts: for me, I think this tool helps me prototype GUI apps quicker with less characters typed so less effort.
I would love to take this further if I could get anyone interested. Thanks.
https://github.com/dislux-hapfyl/shimky
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Version 24.04 LTS of the Ubuntu distribution is out. This release continues Ubuntu's proud tradition of integrating the latest and greatest open source technologies into a high-quality, easy-to-use Linux distribution.lwn.net
The Linux 6.8 kernel now
enables low-latency features by default.
I lived to see this day. 🤯
I always forget. Can we do a release upgrade to this or do we have to wait until 24.04.1?
Edit:
Nvm. You can update today
sudo do-release-upgrade
Ive been wanting to upgrade from Plasma 5 to 6 for some time, but I don't want to manually upgrade, risking breaking everything.
So, does anyone know when they will release Manjaro with KDE Plasma 6?
I went with endeavour.
Arch is already on 6.0.4. I'd say we're five weeks into plasma 6. Manjaro is holding it back unusually long.
I don't know
But archinstall now installs KDE 6 correctly. Just saying
Ubuntu for sure, about every companies I worked at were using Ubuntu as main dev. And now in the new company I work for, it's WSL2 in Windows, using Ubuntu too.
Only non-Ubuntu I used in companies was CentOS.
So pretty sure Ubuntu is the most popular/used.
Thst depends in a lot of things.
What do you mean with "PC"? Is a smartphone a PC? Is a steamdeck a PC? The Laptop of a government employee? A Raspberry Pi? What about a TV-box or an e-reader?
Because if you mean in general on non-server hardware it's probably some weird Chinese/indian fork for their government PCs.
Otherwise it could be Arch due to the steam decks, but then again it depends on how tightly you define "distribution". As others have mentioned, is Xubuntu their own distribution or does it count as Ubuntu? What is Mint/Pop!_OS?
But no matter what, it's not MX Linux.
A smartphone is not a PC I’d wager. People can treat them like ones but then we’d have to be annoying and broaden it beyond what anyone could possibly mean.
Most people mean a non-apple laptop or desktop when they say a PC. It’s widely enough accepted that it shouldn’t be too ambiguous when used.
PC is a computer based on IBM PC compatible standard, so usually x86 processor architecture with compatible with it components.
The term is so common that in practical language people started to use it as a replacement of the "desktop PC" or overall anything that is not pocketable or Apple.
But I guess with such question from OP it does not matter, as computers at the edge of the definition (like x86 Android tablets) are in a fraction of percent and won't matter in "what's the most popular".
IDK about Coreboot, but Android has a completely different userland. The only thing it has in common with Linux is the kernel.
Completely different ? How so ? Last time I did an adb shell I could use ls and find afair.
Ars takes a close look at the technology underlying Google's Linux-based …Ars Technica
Not in my book.
(source: me book)
The differences said in the link above cause a drastically different developer & user experience.
@AprilF00lz@lemmy.ml pretty difficult as there are no accurate figures for Linux distro installs - many sit behind home or corporate firewalls, sharing the same IP addresses.
But back in 2015 Dell was claiming that 42% of their PC sales in China had their Kylin OS installed - https://www.scmp.com/tech/china-tech/article/1857948/chinese-os-last-more-40-cent-dell-pcs-china-now-running-homegrown. Kylin has been improving for 23 years now so is a pretty stable Linux OS too I guess.
After many failed attempts at promoting homegrown operating systems, Beijing may finally be making headway against Google, Microsoft and Apple, with more than a third of Dell machines in the country running an OS co-developed by the Chinese military.James Griffiths (South China Morning Post)
Hannah Montana Linux is probably the most popular Linux distro.
In all seriousness, popularity isn't necessarily the best metric for what you should run on your computer. Ubuntu might be fairly popular, but it also isn't particularly good.
If we are talking about desktop PCs, maybe Ubuntu, but based these reports it's Arch.
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All of that, and more details about the rest can be read on the announcement page here ---> https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/announcing-bazzite-3-0/1218
Get up and running with Llama 3, Mistral, Gemma, and other large language models. - ollama/ollamaGitHub
Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices - including your favorite handheld.bazzite.gg
Bazzite is my first true experience with an immutable distro, and wow, what a magical moment it was.
I've been eyeing on fedora 40's release for some time now because it fixes all the Wayland problems for Nvidia cards. One night my grandma needed some help, so I walked away from my PC, it automatically suspended, came back 30 or so minutes later, and when I logged in I was just automatically on KDE 6 with fedora 40, didn't even reboot.
This is truly the year of the Linux desktop.
Immutable means that the OS will change itself without asking while you're not looking ?
What do you do when you don't like the change ? I would email Linus about it to complain.
they have an option which lets you turn off automatic updates
and with immutable distro's, you can always rollback to a previous state instantly and not update the OS if you don't want to, just the applications.
I've had a lot of experience with Linux and I use Nobara currently. My only catch with Bazzite is that I didn't know the first thing to do. It somehow felt as if most of my experience in Linux was just useless.
Not saying it's a bad thing, I just decided I'd stick to Nobara for now and try learning Bazzite in the future to give it a fair shake.
I'm also a tweaker. I like to play with ZRam and add other things to the OS, like a custom kernel with BCacheFS-Git to support my gaming darastores. I suspect some of my creature comforts may be harder to get.
You could give the uBlue builder a shot, which can do exactly that.
But I think NixOS is a better choice for a tinkerer like you 😀
MX Linux, Xfce 4.18
Closing the laptop lid suspends the system, opening it resumes it, but the screen is black. I'm guessing it's related to powerup because suspending through the logout menu and systemctl suspend both work as expected. When it's black, switching to a different tty works, as well as C-M-Backspace to logout.
Same results with both lightdm and sddm, when replacing suspend with hibernate, and I've tried a few solutions like disabling lock on sleep.
Seems like this issue has been around for years, but had a whole bunch of different causes since every other thread has a different solution.
XFSETTINGSD_DEBUG=1 xfsettingsd --replace --no-daemon > /tmp/xf.log 2>&1
ps -ef | grep -E 'screen|lock'
xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -lv
dmesg, cleared it before trying to suspend
updates:
I'm not seeing a black screen, instead it turns on the display and then turns it off.
Additionally, I tried closing and opening the lid a few times, and it woke up correctly.
I tried it in i3wm with the xfce power manager to suspend after closing the lid. It woke up correctly 10 times in a row.
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Few things to figure out that could be helpful:
What’s your GPU?
NVIDIA GeForce MX150 (Thinkpad t480)
What suspend modes does your laptop supposedly support, and then what modes does your kernel THINK it supports
Sleep mode, hibernation mode, wireless off (source). freeze mem disk (cat /sys/power/state)
I doubt it's related as systemctl suspend works as expected.
What kernel are you in?
6.1.0-20-amd64
What does dmesg show right after you wake the machine back up?
I'll do it again and edit the comment
I've tried resuming 50+ times while troubleshooting, and it only once did it correctly. Now I try to replicate the bug and it worked correctly 2/3 times
That's just the computers fucking with you. It's how it always happens 😉
Regarding the sleep modes, I was referring to the S* states. Run this:
dmesg | grep 'S3\|suspend'
That’s just the computers fucking with you. It’s how it always happens 😉
Oh I know, just complaining
dmesg | grep ‘S3|suspend’
no results
but cat /sys/power/mem_sleep gives me: s2idle
[deep]sudo dmesg | grep -E "S3|suspend"
[ 7225.917778] PM: suspend entry (deep)
[ 7226.596293] printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[ 7230.132960] ACPI: PM: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
[ 7230.178542] ACPI: PM: Waking up from system sleep state S3
[ 7233.500089] PM: suspend exitTried systemctl suspend and then resume:
dmesg after a successful resume
sudo dmesg | grep -E "S3|suspend"
[ 9760.639020] PM: suspend entry (deep)
[ 9761.235526] printk: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
[ 9764.716421] ACPI: PM: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3
[ 9764.764150] ACPI: PM: Waking up from system sleep state S3
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The only thing that looks odd in there is the default in libgl, but otherwise looks okay. So it's probably not a compatibility problem.
How is your swap sized compared to your system memory?
I just tried starting the xfce power manager in i3 and using it to go to standby when i close the lid. It woke up 10 times in a row without an issue. It looks like it's a purely xfce issue.
Also, when it wakes up it turns on the display, but then it doesn't go black but instead turns it off. I was still able to reboot while it was off.
$ swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/swap/swap file 38915068 0 -2Memory: 2926MiB / 31859MiBSince that bug seems related to the X server somehow, I wonder if your monitor is showing black or actually off/standby (as in backlight off)?
If it's the backlight, maybe it's related to DPMS (monitor power management), and you can jolt it back to life with something like
xset dpms force onIt would also be interesting to know if this problem also happens outside of XFCE. If you just use (say) openbox (which I don't think does any power management or DPMS stuff by itself), does that work?
I wonder if your monitor is showing black or actually off/standby (as in backlight off)?
It actually starts, and then turns off. I didn't notice it before you drew my attention.
The command doesn't do anything, but I was able to type sudo reboot and it rebooted.
It would also be interesting to know if this problem also happens outside of XFCE
I can't install anything new, but I just tried starting power manager in i3 and using it to go to standby when i close the lid. It woke up 10 times in a row without an issue. So it's most likely a purely xfce issue that's been around for like a decade in different forms.
It actually starts, and then turns off. I didn’t notice it before you drew my attention.
That does sound like DPMS ("vesa display power management signaling") shenanigans though.
Maybe you can disable XFCE's display power management stuff completely? Systemd's logind (/etc/systemd/logind.conf) can do (and does by default I think) suspend on lid-close without any window manager involvement at all, works fine with i3 here. So disabling XFCE's stuff probably "only" messes with your monitor not going standby after a while, and you can maybe use xset or xscreensaver and set this by hand (after making sure it's actually properly disabled XFCE, so XFCE doesn't override that stuff).
Found this about how to stop xfce4-power-manager and disable DPMS:
xfce4-power-manager -q
xset -dpms
Goal: From the command line, disable the Xfce Power Management setting that controls the display power management. I've tried to get a list of power management settings from xfce-power-manager...Ask Ubuntu
I found a different solution: trigger an xrandr config. I'm leaving automating it for tomorrow.
The funniest thing is that I was trying to help out some other lemmy user fix their own xrandr issues, and accidentally came across a thread mentioning it when I went back to fixing my own.
Thanks for the help anyways
After five months since the last patch and almost two years since the 0.2.0 release, version 0.3.0 of the minimalist Wayland tiler river had dropped last week.
The new version improves rendering performance and damage tracking, adds several quality of life features, such as resizing windows from all sides, extend the rules system, and supports several new Wayland protocols like text-input-v3, input-method-v2, fractional-scale-v1 and more.
Full change log can be found here.
I think the biggest difference is dynamic (river) vs manual tiling (sway). Other than that, I feel sway is much more mature and there's a proper community surrounding it that had written scripts and tools that work with sway. Many of which you are probably gonna use with river as well (swaylock, swaybg, swayidle).
One thing that's pretty cool about river (at least in theory) is that the tiling algorithm is not part of the compositor itself. Instead, you can run any river tiling program and have that part be completely custom if you wish .
From what I remember, the vision of Isaac Freund (main developer) is that river will become more of a tiling compositor base, that others can then use to create their own distributions. I heard that in some table he gave. You should be able to. find that on YouTube.
However, there's still a long way to go.
In it's current state, river reminds me of spectrwm. Very simple, with some cool, but ultimately non-essential, ideas that you probably won't find anywhere else.
Waarschuwing inhoud: [Fixed] Mouse Cursor jumps around
Hello everyone, I have a weird problem with my mouse: when I switch the window focus, e.g. by alt tabbing to another window, or by closing a window, and the newly focused window is on my other monitor my mouse will jump to that monitor without me doing anything.
It is not a deal breaker or something, but it is very annoying...
I am using Fedora 39 with Gnome 45 with xorg, nvidia 2070 super, running the nvidia drivers and a Ryzen 3600.
I looked in my control center for mouse options, but they are very much limited
I don't run gnome myself but I asked AI and there may be a setting:
Please don't get me wrong, this is not meant to be rude slander. MX Linux is not a bad Distro at all (even tho I've always opted for Debian instead) and peops are free to use what suits them best.
But compared to other Distros (like Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian or Mint) there doesn't seem to be much excitement about it. I hardly see articles about MX and I have barely seen people outing themselves as MX users which makes me wonder:
Are MX users just low key quiet, am I escaping their presence or is there a different reason for MX' high HPD score?
Btw: feel free to take a shot every time I write MX 😛
Because:
The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.
So people see it on the list and click on it wondering "what the heck is this MX Linux thing". And that boosts the ranking. And now that it's at the top, it attracts more curious clicks, and this it continues to remain on top.
And now that it's at the top, it attracts more curious clicks, thus it continues to remain on top.
That's exactly how I learned about MX and started using it.
MX Linux is my daily atm. I tend to hop around every few months (normally I use Mint.). Honestly, I'm enjoying it far more than Mint and don't see that changing.
Dunno about what's up with distrowatch; just chiming in as that one MX Linux person.
MX Linux is simple and just works. The XFCE version is pretty light and snappy and the utilities, which it shares with AntiX, just work.
I’m a newbie at Linux, because my personal, very old 2012 computer just can’t work Windows 7…Windows was eating up all resources. I got MX Linux in a USB (2.0) and it just runs in that old hardware.
Ended up switching to AntiX, because it manages memory even better (runs with as little as 256 MB of RAM) and it recognized everything. AntiX is like installing Debian with a bit of utilities loaded. If you add the FT10/Tint2 bar, it feels as if you have a Desktop Manager, instead of a Windows Manager.
My 4GB RAM, old AMD64, Radeon computer, with an old rotational Hard Drive, just goes. Starts faster than my Laptop computer with 32GB RAM, Intel I7 with an SDD and it just has a good feeling about it.
MX Linux on a USB and persistence is working on any other computer I have. And you can focus on the important stuff: using your computer, instead of messing around with the setup constantly.
Are MX users just low key quiet, am I escaping their presence or is there a different reason for MX' high HPD score?
That's definitely a factor. People write and talk about new and exciting stuff, MX is neither. There's no point in writing an article that goes: MX experience - same as a year ago because nothing changed, see ya again in a year.
i think xfce people in general don't fuck around with all that distro gobshitery. it's fast, works and isn't fancy.
gnome and kde people more likely to want to show off all the bullshit effects they're wasting all that ram on.
You wanna know what my ram has in it . . . data, glorious data.
Albeit being inefficiently monged into terrible statistical models by some shitty code i wrote.
I especially like it because it's trying to follow UNIX philosophy. All of its tools are separate and you can use them outside of Xfce or replace them altogether. For example KDE is still not at the point that you can launch the panel outside of it.
gnome and kde people more likely to want to show off all the bullshit effects they're wasting all that ram on.
It's not that much lighter than them though. KDE has gotten really close, and truly light DEs like LXDE and LXQT destroy Xfce on that front.
Had to switch because the Nextcloud version was outdated and didnt work with an updated server.
And there was no flatpak, snap, or appimage?
Half of my packages are from nix unstable. Stable base + bleeding edge userland.
I'm currently running MX because I went to DW and checked what's popular. It wasn't the only one I hopped through, but that's how I first learned about it.
Did you check out the MX package installer at any point? It's got flatpak integration, but I'm wondering if it's obvious for beginners.
I have no idea, I may have to give it another try.
Currently experimenting with atomic CentOS though, and rpm-ostree always wins
they count clicks on a distro's page on their site, not usage or anything else.
if they dared put hanna montana linux on there, it would be the perpetual #1 listing.
Low key quiet I guess, I used Linux with various distro, Ubuntu from maybe 2010-2014, Mint Cinnamon 2014-2018, then since 2018, MX, I don't rant about it because it just works, simple, efficient, Xfce, no snap/flat. I have a simple desktop with a taskbar à la Windows XP, meaning a menu button, window buttons, and the icon/hour. My latest install was LUKS+btrfs, it went like butter.
Everything works, is up to date, never break.
Might be a coincidence but MX Linux still supports 32bit x86 CPU's.
I recently installed MX Linux on an old Dell Inspiron 1300 which inexplicably still runs and it's pretty snappy, considering.
I decided to fully convert to Linux on my living room PC because I was convinced these random display drops I was getting were being caused by Windows. (I was right.)
I had a drive that I wanted to leave alone, because it had my videos and music and such. I wanted to try a new (to me) distro, so I just started using high rated ones I found on distro watch. The first two I tried (I honestly forget which) would NOT leave my video drive alone during installation (even with advanced options). The third one was MX, and it successfully installed while leaving my video drive alone. I liked that. I am used to xfce, and I like some of the custom little tweaks that MX adds to it, like easily making custom folder themes. I like that it can install .deb files and pretty much everything I've tried to run so far has worked.
So, yeah, that's why I like MX. I have since installed it on my laptop, my office PC, and my husband is dual booting it. It even runs his v-tube software, which blew us away. I know most of this isn't unique to MX, but it just seems to work really well for us.
For the past 8 days I’ve been in Berlin for what is technically four sprints: first a two-day KDE e.V. Board of Directors sprint, and then right afterwards, the KDE Goals mega-sprint for the …Adventures in Linux and KDE
u just need kde, as hitting 'get new widgets' in da widgets sidebar uses the same backend, meow
so u just need to search for catwalk in there :3
When I hit 'get new widgets' I get an empty window with no results. When I type something in the search box, nothing comes up. Has been like that for years.
When I hit 'install from file' I can't select the tar.gz which you get from downloading.
So I am either missing some module or something else is wrong.
Hi, I'm Jakob and this is my new KDE blog. Let's see how this goes as I haven't blogged for literally decades.PowerDevil in Plasma 6.0 and beyond
Tasksel is an easy-to-use tool that provides an interface to install a group of software packages such as LAMP, Mail Server, DNS, etc. in Ubuntu and Debian.Aaron Kili (Tecmint: Linux Howtos, Tutorials & Guides)
Ive noticed its has been any activity in their github for a longtime. https://github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch
There are a few more info that could be added nowadays like Display Protocol (Wayland/X11) and Display size. FastFetch does this but Neofetch is globally recognized.
Fastfetch vs Neofetch
🖼️ A command-line system information tool written in bash 3.2+ - dylanaraps/neofetchGitHub
It definitely seems abandoned. Here's an issue in the GH repo asking the same question https://github.com/dylanaraps/neofetch/issues/2453
There are 1.5k forks, seems like somebody could carry the torch forward if they were interested. Could be a good way to build experience and reputation.
Last commit was in December 2021. And last version is from 2020.GitHub
I switched to fastfetch because neofetch was abandoned as far as I know. Or it might be that development just slowed down. Also fastfetch is faster than neofetch, even if its only very slightly faster, its noticeable (and I personally find neofetch annoyingly slow). And as one can see in the comparison image from you, fastfetch provides more info by default.
Also the developers react and implement bug fixes or other features quickly (7 open, 403 closed issues): https://github.com/fastfetch-cli/fastfetch
Like neofetch, but much faster because written mostly in C. - fastfetch-cli/fastfetchGitHub
i hate always having to find out years later some software i use has been unmantained for years.
there should at least be some sort of notification when this happens baked in to package managers
I don't get the fascination everyone has with neofetch... it's a 10k line bash script that is unmaintained and hasn't seen a release in 2 years, and can't even handle ARM64 CPUs at all (nor HMP in general, which these days affects Intel too).Treehouse Mastodon
Command-line fetch tools for system/other information - beucismis/awesome-fetchGitHub
But neofetch tells you if wayland already:
WM: Wayfire (Wayland)
Actually while neofetch detects pretty well I'm using alacritty:
Terminal: alacritty
Probably they learned $TERM is really meaningless if using screen or tmux, but fastfetch totally misses this and mistakenly shows screen as the terminal:
Terminal: screen
The only thing I like of fastfetch over neofetch is that it's faster, 😀 And yes the display missing, but I've never considered that something of much interest for such output... To me neofetch is just fine, and on terminal it gives you a more accurate answer... In the end is a matter of taste... But what it does is well done, 😀
Brief description of the new features and enhancements in Fedora KDE 40.Joseph Gayoso (Fedora Project)
Looking forward to trying it on my Virtual Machine.
I love Fedora Workstation and Gnome but I’d want to see what the fuss is about when some people are saying that Gnome is too limiting and KDE gives you much more freedom.
Gnome doesn't offer a lot of customization but it is very easy to use if you can get used to the work flow.
Definitely install gnome tweaks and extension manager though
Same. But it's still nice to see Plasma 6 finally arrive. Pretty big update for the Plasma spin
I might even give it a little test on my laptop and see how Plasma has progressed since I last tried to use it.
I’m running Fedora Kinoite 40, having switched over from Onyx through a rebase. On Onyx I was using X11, which worked just fine. Kinoite instead uses Wayland by default, which causes some issues with the scroll wheel.Fedora Discussion
I run into scrolling issues like these on both Wayland and X11 every now and then. Scroll events fail to get processed, sometimes scrolling only works in one direction, or scroll events get super delayed. Seems to have something to do with Firefox getting into some kind of weird state, but a reboot seems to be the only real solution.
I don't think it's a hardware issue because this doesn't happen on Windows. I've given up looking for the cause, I assume it's some kind of misconfiguration somewhere, or just one of those Linux bugs that no volunteer would ever delve deeply enough into to actually debug. It only happens once or twice and month and a reboot only takes a minute, so I'm not spending more time on this stuff. I'm sure it'll disappear on its own through some random update down the line!
So does it not happen on X11?
Other than that, i have to clean my scrollwheel sensor once in a while, not because i'm disgusting, but because my current mouse has this issue, otherwise i get a similar experience as yours
I think so. Installing Linux was a hurdle for a lot of people but having it by default on the Steam Deck was a bit of a game changer. Installing Windows on it versus figuring out how to use something Lutris probably takes a similar amount of effort for average casual user.
I feel like it also helps that Windows isn't very controller friendly, in my experience, and an increasing amount of people are looking for that for couch gaming and viewing media.
In my own case I’d put it down to Flatpak etc. finally resolving the software installation problem.
Installing most Linux OSes has been easy enough for decades, but a program not in your distro’s repos could be a nightmare to get working.
"./configure"
"error: libblahblah1.0.0-2 not found"
"downloads tarball"
"tar –xvzf libblahblah1.0.0-2.tar.gz"
"./configure"
"error: libblahblah1.0.0-2 depends on libgofuckyourself.2.0.0"
"downloads tarball"
"tar -xvzf libgofuckyourself.2.0.0,tar.gz"
"./configure"
"error: libblahblah1.0.0-2 not found"
🤯😡🤬
I was there in darker times, with a modem that had no Linux driver, so no connection at all, learning from printouts from the library.
I may have PTSD from it.
I disagree naming Flatpak etc. as the reason for more adoption. New users I know of do not know how to search for software and software alternatives in the first place.
Documentation and engagement on linux just improves by each day. Experiences are shared and people may just be curious.
Then there are news about linux breakthroughs by big players like valve.
Imo a beginner linux distro should prompt on install:
If you are a potential linux adaptor do not get discouraged. You may have spent your entire life building knowledge for an other operating system. Once you grok the aimed simplicity of UNIX and which parts are involved in your daily tasks you will be at least as efficient as with other operating systems.
The most inportant thing: Have fun on your journey and engage in our chats, forums and/or in social media.
Thank you for your attention.
I hope so. I've been using Linux for 10 years for everything except gaming. And two years ago i went fulltime with proton and lutris (switched to heroic though).
And let me tell you, we're at a point where its multiple times more straight forward to just install something like Fedora KDE, and do almost anything windows can, than trying to deal with whatever the hell microsoft is up to these days.
The biggest problem still is software discoverability. It is our duty to guide newcomers where they want to go instead of gatekeeping.
And let me tell you, we’re at a point where its multiple times more straight forward to just install something like Fedora KDE, and do almost anything windows can, than trying to deal with whatever the hell microsoft is up to these days.
Yep that was my turning point.
Only I have to disagree with Fedora as first Linux, it requires manual fiddling with repositories just to install codecs that any average unskilled user would expect to work out of the box
The codec thing really is a bummer. But thats really one of the few things you would have to do on Fedora while theres plenty of other pitfalls with other distros too. Like an older kernel or having to manually configure drivers for some hardware with Debian, or having to deal with canonicals shenanigans on Ubuntu.
Maybe one of the more niche distros is a better guess for some, like Nobara or Bazzite for gaming.
I will try cyberpunk one day if its on sale and my pile of shame has gotten smaller.
I made the switch to Heroic from Lutris because the integration is just better. I used both for a while, bc the witcher 3 worked better on the legacy version for me, and heroic didn't let you choose the (legacy or nextgen), while lutris only had the legacy version. But now you can install any version you want on Heroic (looking at you, every other platform with forced updates). Also, while Lutris downloads the offline installers off of GOG, heroic installs it via the GOG galaxy redistributable. This also makes it possible to sync playtime and savegames, although this is experimental right now. As soon as they start implementing achievements (which i think they have planned) its feature complete for me.
Updates of heroic itself and the games always went fine, although it must be said that the most challenging titles i have on gog right now are witcher 3 and metro exodus.
Not yet. But it’s not moving away from it. It needs a few huge global companies to migrate over. Their demand for enterprise software will drive large software developers over.
I hate putting it like this, but when Adobe finally releases photoshop, it’s all over for windows, and Linux will skyrocket.
You are not wrong about Adobe. That is one of the main reasons I see given by many tech-minded people still running Windows or macOS.
Gaming is so very close to having no barrier to entry. With Steam (and Proton), Heroic, and others like them, the ecosystem and ease of discover -> install -> run have made it at least as simple as on Windows.
I know the NVidia woes will soon be a thing of the past (see all the work concerning explicit sync), but I would still recommend using an AMD video card to anyone getting a computer to specifically run Linux. I’m at my wits end dealing with my NVidia card and I’m about to shell out the cash for an AMD so I can run Hyprland and all the things without any graphical glitches (ideally).
This is just based on my personal experience, so please take it with a grain of salt.
Rather than gaining ground from the wider population, I see the recent rise in Linux usage as coming from a pool of "interested users" who have in one way or the other, had some prior exposure and thus interest in Linux. These people have already been interested in making the jump, but have been held back in one way or the other.
This shouldn't be taken as discounting the recent advances amongst Linux distributions, however. Personally, the reason why I've made the jump is two-fold: dissatisfaction with Windows, and the advances in Linux itself that have made the jump far less intimidating than ever before. Not being a gamer, however, advances in Proton was only seen as a bonus, though a very welcome one.
Only one other person in my current friend group daily-drive Linux, and like me, they already have had experience with it beforehand. There are some other people I know of who have used Linux, but still, they all have had prior experience from school or work. For everyone else I know of, if they've even heard of Linux, they think of it as "for advanced users" and as one contact put it "way above my pay grade". Unfortunately, in so far as personal experience goes, I don't have confidence Linux will be shedding that image anytime soon.
As for the Steam Deck, I am guessing it'd be similar (with a lot of caveats) to how people see Android. It'd be seen as a separate thing, and not occupy the same mental space as "desktop Linux". For one, it being a hand-held system will reinforce that difference, and people aren't as willing to tinker about with their handhelds as people are with their desktop systems. Steam Deck's OS might as well be BSD or even Temple OS as far as the ordinary user is concerned. I am hoping I am wrong here, however, as interoperability might make a difference here: if people can install and use their desktop programs to their Steam Decks in as much the same ease as installing an Android app in their phones, then perhaps the choice of OS here will make an impression on the users and not just the tinkerers.
Despite saying all that, however, I still think Linux is undergoing a renaissance. There's quite a lot of improvements going on even as we speak. Usability, in a very general sense, like being able to daily-drive Linux without being hampered by a lot of issues, is way better than it was when I first used a Linux machine in a school computer laboratory close to twenty years ago. Advances like this is starting to pull people who are curious, interested, and already leaning towards making the jump—and if this trend continues, will lead more people into using Linux, leading to more people contributing towards advances, and so on.
I jumped all in least December just to get away from Windows. I went Arch because I like a challenge and I thought it would fast track learning how to Linux. I work IT so I'm skilled with Windows and software in general. Once I got it setup, which took a while, I haven't had too many issues, or at least not many more than I had with Windows. Most of them have been related to hibernation, which I just disabled, and Wayland with Nvidia. It struggles remembering positions when I disable and re-enable monitors, since I use the same station for work. Other than that, it runs so much better than better, faster, and more efficient than Windows.
If you want to be a power user, the sky is the limit to what you can do, or go with a stable, user friendlier distro like Ubuntu or Mint, where the out of box experience is fairly intuitive. If Linux shipped stock on laptops, most people would assume Windows got different and be none the wiser. Not having native MS Office apps is also going to be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
I've switched to Linux as my daily driver sometime late 2019, and initially went with Manjaro (with XFCE, because I was using an ancient laptop back then) after it was recommended to me. The installation and set-up process was pretty quick and painless.
When I got my current desktop, I stayed with Manjaro. However, I got some problems with my NVIDIA video card's drivers. Proprietary support for it was dropped shortly after I got my system. Nouveau was decent. I can use my system at the very least, but gaming was a lot iffy. I didn't mind since I don't really do gaming, however. Since then, I've moved on to Arch, btw. Also since then, I've got an AMD card. Neither of them gave me much problems. A lot of my problems with Arch deal with the changes I've made to my configuration.
This is basically my Linux experience: when it works, which is 90% of the time, it's excellent. When I do have some problems, 90% of the time (9% overall), I can get by with a few internet searches. That remaining 10% of the time (so, 1% overall), I feel that I'm just too smooth-brained to resolve it, and even attempting to resolve it seems to be a foolish errand.
While lot of help is out there online, I don't appreciate the elitist tone of some of the more Arch-specific fora—they're helpful, but I'll never want to put myself to the position of asking those people for help, not with how newbs are treated. That is basically why I said earlier that I have no confidence that Linux will soon be able to shed its "for advanced users" image. Newbs to Linux don't have the knowledge to "properly ask questions" required by a lot of those online fora. IMO, they only resort to asking questions online when they're knee-deep in shit and are desperate for an answer. Being faced with an "elitist RTFM attitude" when one's already desperate for help doesn't alleviate that "Linux is too hard for me" image.
So, yeah, there's that.
90% of the time, Linux works swimmingly fine. 9% of the time, some problems might arise, but an online search (Arch Wiki is very helpful in this regard) and digging around some fora would resolve it. 1% of the time is where you'd find yourself wondering if you're smart enough for Linux. Unfortunately, it only takes a handful of (second-hand) bad interactions (thread closed with no answers, being told to RTFM, being told that the query is too vague without any helpful nudge towards a refinement of the query, etc.) to sour a user's impression of Linux as a whole.
I must admit that newbs not knowing how to ask questions isn't a problem exclusive to Linux alone. However, Windows and even Mac have the luxury of larger user numbers, and more importantly, paid staff to address user queries. With Linux, as a rule, the ones answering user questions are but other users volunteering their time and effort to answer questions. It's understandable that facing the same malformed question again and again is infuriating. However, I think it takes time and effort to be rude. IMO, it's just better to walk away from a possible unpleasant interaction. Of course, this wouldn't help the user at all, but I'd rather see a thread with no replies than someone telling me to shut up and read the fucking manual. Perhaps there'd be someone more helpful who'd step in before the thread inevitably gets locked due to inactivity.
I don't want to be negative about Linux, but if the "year of the Linux desktop" is to happen, this is one crucial thing that we (and I count myself in being a Linux user myself) must address. Every Linux user is, whether we like it or not, an ambassador, and how we deal with newbs/noobs asking questions will shape their impression of not just us, but Linux as a whole. I think there are a lot of people who are still on the fence, not because of Linux's capabilities, but because of a pre-concieved notion of what a Linux user must be: tech-savvy and above all, willing to devote the time to learning about their machine and OS. A lot of people aren't like that. Moreover, I think there are some people using Linux (even Arch, btw) who aren't like that, but ... yeah.
At any rate, I agree with you that a lot more people will be able to get by with a pre-installed Linux system. I think Linux is ready for being a mainstream daily driver.
Oh, yeah, I don't think not having native MS Office apps isn't that much of a deal-breaker. I personally use Libre Office, and despite some hiccups (their documentation do have a lot of problems IMO), it's got a decent amount of feature-parity with MS Office. For almost all of what I want to use an office suite, Libre Office would suffice. For the exceptions, I can usually find a workaround.
Overall, I'm happy with my Linux system—to the point I barely even touch Windows anymore (my SO installed Win10 on a separate SSD for me so that I can dual-boot), but I've got no reason to log on Windows. I might have had some problems (mostly of my own making), but with that small exception of times that made me wonder if I'm smart enough for Linux (or yeah, basically Arch), I'm more than content a huge majority of the time.
I'm sorry for the rambling wall of text, and I hope I've put my message across clearly.
Cheers to that. Being welcoming and forgiving with new users or just ones who don't know yet how to state their problem better, is a must. Assholes, like those elitists you spoke of, are not only unique to the Linux bubble, but are a sickness spread through all kinds of volunteer-based software related streams. I mean, just take a look at stackoverflow or forums and github pages of some open-source projects.
I can understand if someone is annoyed by insufficiently detailed problem threads, if they see that very often, but don't take that out on the user, because that would be the best way to deter people from using that project. And also because it's super unhelpful and inconsiderate.
That doesn't mean serving someone everything on a silver plate and not expecting anything from the user. It's okay to expect more involvement of the user to solve their own problem. However, do it in a nice way. Some mere hints, even if someone is not at the capacity to completely help, can go a long way.
As you nicely put it, every user and voluntary contributor is an ambassador of the project.
Indeed, the phenomena of people being assholes to newbs isn't limited to Linux. Heck, I even witnessed this in a lot more places other than you've mentioned (like language learning). There is just this fact that people don't start out with enough knowledge to get the help they need. We need to be aware of this fact.
What makes this really problematic in Linux circles is how Linux is "a minority of a minority." Being a computer nerd is relatively rare enough, and being a computer nerd who is into Linux is even more rare. This makes the knowledge of the mores and culture of Linux circles even more scarce.
If you ask me, one good way to alleviate this is to "adopt a noob". That is, someone helps a new Linux user along, not only helping them in the installation, configuration, and maintenance of their system, but also how to interact online with other Linux users, and more importantly, how to get and use the debug data one would need to resolve their problems on their own, or ask for more expert help if necessary—or even to make a bug report or feature request if all else fails. All of this in the hopes that this new Linux user grow into someone who can pay things forward. That way, not only can users get the help they need, but also give the contributors the information they need to improve things (assuming more people make good bug reports and feature requests).
But if we're going by Linux user stereotypes...
Seriously though, I've seen this happen in real life, having been a member of a Linux users group in university. That group didn't go as far as teach members how to retrieve and use system debug data though, let alone how to ask for help online, but simply being part of a group of people who help each other with the inevitable challenges of using a Linux computer system is oftentimes enough to encourage someone to keep at it.
TBH, if it weren't for that group, I might have stayed a Windows user, with my Linux experience being negatively colored by schoolwork and struggling with vi 😅
A number of years ago, I put 2 and 2 together and realized that while most of the time stuff “just works” in Linus (especially with modern versions), some hardware manufacturers have absolute ass Linux support. Predominantly, this occurs with Realtek components.
If at all possible, swap any NICs (wired, wireless, copper, optical, m.2, PCIE - doesn’t matter, it’s just that Realtek linux drivers tend to suck, and the hardware is often just not as good or efficient at the IC level) to Intel models - anything that meets your bandwidth requirements should do, and you can find them used all over the place, or salvage them from old hardware (cheap eBay 1L thin clients are a good place to pull these from, since you get a tiny computer AND a wireless NIC that you otherwise probably wouldn’t even use).
Also, sleep/hibernate is a thing that often gets wonky on a lot of Linux systems for a whole host of reasons, so simply shutting the thing down is often a better call if we’re talking about a laptop.
You nailed it. Too often when I search for an answer to an issue, someone comes in and links to the arch wiki. The wiki is great and full of information, but it doesn't have answers for specific cases. Sometimes I just need someone to tell me which parameter I need, or to tell me my formatting is fucked up or something. I'm not a Linux expert and trying to understand what configs do what and all of the options needed all at the same time is a lot. Forums are a place to ask questions and discuss solutions, but my experiences at least with Arch have not been that.
I also use libre when I need it, but I think Office apps not being around, warranted or not, will be a disqualifier for some people. The web apps work well, but for a power user, it might not be the ideal experience.
I just had to go through an absolutely catastrophic rewrite of a bunch of official documentation that needed to be done in Word (with sharepoint stuff) and let me tell you: holy fuck their collaborative editing stuff is fucking atrocious. We lost work on that fucking doc SO MANY TIMES. Particularly, the formatting (which is important, as it’s an official Work Instruction that the FDA might ask to look at at some point) got completely fucked at least a dozen times, and we had to go through and reapply everything… only for someone to come through with a minor change (and we got tired of asking people to stop making edits, changes, or comments - with or without revision tracking (which did not seem to be actually tracking revisions, because at no point were we able to successfully roll back any changes to a known good state) because nobody fucking listens to anything and “it’s only a minor change”) and wrecks everything again. I’ve talked to various people about how flaky and sketchy our whole MSO setup evidently is, and the response was “yeah, our hosted Sharepoint instance is super fucked, but it’s not a priority to fix right now”. I don’t know why this is an acceptable state for things to be in.
We are still trying to finalize the doc.
It’s been over a month.
I’m a software engineer. I deal with complex and nuanced systems on a daily basis as my job. I avoid, and will continue to avoid, MS Office like the plague.
For gaming, sure - proton has gone a really long way toward making most Windows games playable on Linux without too much effort.
For non technical users? Not so much, ChromeOS is putting in more work there.
Linux implies an IT burden that I don't see most non technical users carrying without someone there to provide IT support. My mom, for example, won't ever touch Linux because I'm damned well not going to provide on call support for that. ChromeOS though? That's set and forget enough for the non technical crowd.
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I put my mom on Ubuntu with KDE 10 years ago. I had far less problems with her on Linux than I ever did with Vista and 7. It got to the point she was calling me multiple times a week.
I didn't have to but I did one Ubuntu reinstall in that entire time only because I made /boot the default partition size at installation and years later it filled up constantly. I got sick of going over there to clean it up and it coincided with her getting a new computer.
My mom installed printer drivers, and Cisco VPN software from run packages instead of apt and set up multi- monitors on her own after I taught her how to use the terminal, so it's possible for the elderly.
Linux is amazing. It's hitting peak productivity with support for every driver, and highly optimized systems like Systems, Dbus, Wayland,and Pipewire. It's actually world class rn, both windows and Mac are jealous of what the core Linux is now. Linux now runs every server, most of the world's phones, most of the IoT devices, and some gaming stuff
But it's still a tiny percentage of desktop/laptop, so yeah idk it's all good
With every update Windows becomes more annoying.
With every update Linux Mint (and every distro) becomes more refined.
There are still gaps; HDR isn't really there yet, never mind Dolby Vision... but if all you want is a PC that acts right and doesn't piss you off with ads and upsells... honestly, a default Linux Mint install is at least as good as Windows at this point.
I've broken my Nvidia driver 4x this week and I wouldn't have it any other way (not /s)
Nothing else compares to the flexibility of linux and if I need a kernel-level anti cheat I do it on a separate drive entirely (which can't see my linux BTFS drive at all)
I’ve broken my Nvidia driver 4x this week
Genuinely confused by that statement... been using an NVIDIA for years, both closed (to play and work) and open drivers (to test only) and beside having the "wrong" version for CUDA and some graphical bug in specific situation, e.g ALT-Tab out of game or resuming from a game leading to some minor visual glitches, I've never encountered even a reboot. I also have relatively recent drivers but I don't even know which version I have (checked out of curiosity : Driver Version: 525.147.05 CUDA Version: 12.0).
So... I don't get it, what leads you and others to such situation? Are you reverse engineering the drivers? Are you overclocking? Are you changing some specific parameters that are not stable?
I'm asking because this is so different from my experience that I don't get it.
Want specifics or just the general vibe of me being a dumbie ;)? Stable Diffusion (the web gui version) uses CUDA 11 and all of my attempts to work around this let me w/ either a perma black screen or a 1FPS Desktop Enviornment that leads to a crash of said DE in ~30 seconds or so.
It seems that running that exact NVIDIA driver + Cuda 11 freaks the fuck out and I tried in maybe 5+ ways before giving up and accepting Cuda 12 and no Simple Diffusion (at least on this partition)
I think it's still a migration of a rather knowledgeable part of the windows users.
I did migrate a year ago because of frustrations from windows pop ups showing up like they own the computer.
I a still reluctant to recommend it to my partner who is comfortable with windows but not really techy. As long as Linux works, it works. But when you need something a bit more involved or something breaks, the terminal will be harder for those users who might not have ever opened CMD in windows.
When a problem arises in windows, the same people that never opened a cmd would be equally puzzled about how to solve the issue when something breaks.
I'm my opinion and experience, great majority of users don't have the skills to solve common issues on windows either. Cue all the jokes and memes from the tech savvy family members that have to fix uncle Lou infested pc.
Maybe we are talking about tradition. People are used to windows, the hardware companies works with them. The pc stores had been selling pre installed windows on pcs for decades. Software and games are being made for windows. People know it's ~~not a good~~ garbage OS, but you have to fight so many walls that the common user is never going to make the jump by himself.
There sure is new comers thanks to the enhancement of graphic environment and gaming.
But this is still very marginal, and there is some good reasons.
If we want to promote linux and FOSS we couldn't only rely on use-cases and good-will of people, we need to find structures that make people use mac and windows.
FOSS movement make some interesting stuff about the education system, and the institution use of windows, which are a lot more impact on the OS we are using than the qualities of such systems. But the so-called "politically neutral" forbade us to prevent this situation to repeat itself.
Microsoft works on daily bases with tremendous resources (not only monetary). People who are making this decisions have some carrer interests that is not align on those of the masses.
Free-software without anti-capitalism is only open-source, sry
That not a moral state; some capitalist on corporation help us a lot. The main reason for the linux promotion is the choice of Valve, but because that choice is not profitable (in a capitalist way), we should consider it as the exception.
I'm not saying that it's helpless. It's quite the opposite : I'm saying that if we want to have a massive action, we have to take the power were it is.
I have seen tech illiterate people who are very comfortable with steam deck.
She doesn't even know macbook charger can charge steam deck. She was complaining to me that she is very afraid of losing her steam deck charger, since she doesn't have a spare.
So the total positive rate, from my observation, is around 100%, with sample size of 1.
Its the most simple handheld gaming PC by far. As with all unfamiliar systems, there is a learning curve that exists, and person to person the difficulties in this will vary. But at a base level, out of the box, the SteamDeck is almost as simple to grasp as something like a Switch (or any other console). If you just want to game, and just want it to work, SteamDeck is your best choice.
Full disclosure though, the deeper you choose to dig into advanced use, the more complicated this question becomes. If you are more familiar with Windows, then using the desktop on a Windows handheld will naturally make more sense at first. But if you are comfortable with Linux (or put in the time to learn), the SteamDeck is far easier to use fully handled than it's competition thanks to easy to remap on the fly controls and the track pads. But again, this second "advanced usage" point is moot if you just want to buy games from Steam and have them work out of the box.
Ditched Windows late last year and jump to Linux as my main driver. I've had Linux servers for years but it is completely different when it's your main driver.
I mainly play games and from the over 100 games that I tried to play only 2 had issues and I was unable to get them working (BattleField 4 and FaF Forever).
Honestly Wine and subsequently Proton is the true game changer when it comes to games BUT I'm on an all AMD hardware and had 0 issues with driver stability, however a friend of mine on an Intel/nVidia has had a couple of issues which were eventually resolved but took a bit of wait for fixes and updates.
I used to have more faith in people in general and believed this can actually happen. I changed my mind.
People are generally ignorant and even when working in tech where there’s a lot of interaction with Linux machines, most people I meet couldn’t care less about Linux on desktop. With how obvious advantage of free software might look at glance, it’s very rare for me to see somebody actually caring about freedom, privacy and being in full control over the piece of hardware they’re using or even seeing anything bad in blind trust towards big tech. Companies are stupid enough to on one hand not trust their employees and locking down their work machines, on other sucking corporate cock and enforcing intrusive services or straight up sending their data right to multi-billion companies for the sake of convenience.
I don’t blame home users who can’t or don’t want to switch for whatever reason. They’re just consumers using devices they’ve bought, there’s no reason to force them to the change. It gets really bad with public institutions though, where Windows remains the king on desktop and Microsoft does its best for that to never change. Everything relies on one corporation that is trusted to drive computers to deal with confidential stuff. When there’s security flaw in their software, only MS can fully understand what’s going on (in a timely manner, ofc it can be reverse-engineered) and fix it, which was already an issue numerous times. If I believe there might be some big shift in the desktop space, it’s definitely stuff like military and all sorts of national institutions in many different countries. To some degree it already happens in Germany and France among others.
As for home users and gamers, I believe the market can grow some more, but Windows won’t go anywhere anytime soon and will stay on dominating position in that area for decades to come. Maybe it will only be replaced eventually when the concept of personal computing will change drastically and traditional PCs that we know will become irrelevant.
With recent advancements Linux is showing how it can be a viable alternative for some people, but keep in mind it has been around for 30+ years at this point and the kernel was already solid by mid-2000’s. The adoption really boils down to how complete and accessible it is. The first thing is impossible to get 100% as lot of missing features comes from lack of hardware/software vendor support. The community can supplement a lot of it, but a lot remains unsupported. Without that, kinda hard to believe in a super significant shift.
no.
Next year will be the year when people say "this will be the year of the linux rennaisance"
That said I guess there is Da Vinci Resolve available.
When is Wayleonardo coming to debian as standard?
All my devices seem to have problems connecting to my homes router. This problem appears only on linux and only on my router. All other networks work flawlessly. My router is a CH7466CE.
EDIT: My router seems to have unfucked itself.
journalctl -u networkmanager.service --since -2h and so on). Check dmesg as well.
I'd still paste it, redacting SSID and MAC addresses.
Even if it's just info messages, it'll still give us an idea of what it does or doesn't do.
I saw the other comment thread about using a static IP sometimes fixing it. We should see that DHCP attempt in the logs. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it's like "btw the router handed me option 42 and I don't know how to deal with that", maybe it's using the wrong DHCP client (dhclient vs dhcpd) but clues are clues.
Could also tail the entire system log (journalctl -f) so you'll see live output of every service. Maybe it connects fine but something else immediately kicks in and breaks it.
Do you have a VPN running on those devices to the same network that you are trying to connect to?
Had something like this using WireGuard once
Hello guys,
I'm looking for a music player, I have checked some wikis but none of those give me their personal opinion of the music players thus I would like to know your experience. Currently I am using musikcube as I just though it would look since since it can use your terminal colorscheme and I have also used Cue.
Anyway, what music player would you recommend for someone who has thousands of songs and wishes to create playlists seamlessly. Thanks in advance
Edit: Gave most of your recommendations a fair shot. In the end I decided to go for MPD + Ymuse since it was exactly what I needed plus Ymuse is gtk so its automatically themed for me. Thank You All Guys!
fair to say I was Ymused....
I don't have any suggestions for you, sorry. Now-a-days I just use Spotify or YouTube and stream stuff, then download the songs I really like, for offline play on my phone. I just wanted to comment on how much I miss the late 90's early 2000's era of WinAmp and having a real music collection. Sharing music with friends on CD's, then eventually USB hard drives. Sadly way more fun than limitless access to anything you could want, on the internet.
Also shout out to GRiZ in your music list. That dude is absolutely fantastic, I love all of his stuff.
A simple music app using YouTube Music for backend - maxrave-dev/SimpMusicGitHub
I was born in 1996 but I feel you man
JFC, how to make me feel old AF, 1966 here .
I don't stream anything.
Strawberry is a music player and music collection organizer for Linux, macOS and Windows. It is aimed at music collectors and audiophiles. With Strawberry you can play and manage your digital music collection, or stream your favorite radios.www.strawberrymusicplayer.org
Qt5 Graphical MPD Client. Contribute to fenuks/cantata development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
Jellyfin has mobile and desktop clients.
For me for a long time it was a coin toss between Plex and Jellyfin.
For some long forgotten reason I ended with Emby and eventually migrated to Jellyfin as its true free open source fork.
With jellyfin DLNA server i can play same music on Apple TV, etc. although DLNA clients are certainly not as nice as native apps. One can offset problem with playlists.
Both have quick start wiki pages like this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Jellyfin
Official documentation: https://jellyfin.org/docs/
Jellyfin is a Free Software Media System that puts you in control of managing and streaming your media. It is an alternative to the proprietary Emby and Plex, to provide media from a dedicated server to end-user devices via multiple apps.jellyfin.org
I've tried a few and settled on Audacious.
It's pretty basic overall but it allows you to use original Winamp skins which I love!
Explore, discover, and have fun with your music using our beautiful, custom-built music player.Plex
I'm a huge fan of LMS (Lyrion Music Server, formerly Logitech Media Server, formerly Slimserver, formerly...)
Fantastic piece of software. The server can run on a first gen Raspberry Pi and handle 100k+ tracks like it's nobody's business
As any person that lives under a rock I barely blinked and everyone was using streaming services while I kept half of my hard drive full of pirated mp3 and never got to understand why people fell for that trap. I really like MPD, though when it goes yolo it's a pain in the butt to re-configure it.
I used ncmpcpp for like 10 years (or even more, but I can't recall) but only a couple years ago re-discovered ncmpc and liked its minimalism (compared to ncmpcpp, that is). Even wrote a couple stupid patches to change the default progress bar.
But a few weeks ago learned about mmtc. Which is written in rust.
I didn't have rust installed and the 12 GB of RAM weren't enough to compile rust in my Gentoo box so I used this as an excuse to buy more RAM. And then compiled rust and it took a bit more of an hour so I could use this shiny "new" MPD player. Only to discover its so minimal it doesn't have an database update function - the author literally says you have to set a key combination to call mpc to do so.
Minimal mpd terminal client that aims to be simple yet highly configurable - figsoda/mmtcGitHub
A customisable music player. Contribute to ludouzi/fooyin development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
Different strokes. If I preferred using software that was just good enough out of the box over something I can customize to my exact liking then I probably wouldn't be using Linux in the first place, or at least not the way I do in general.
Beyond that, having it be customizable means other people can change it to their liking and share that configuration, and maybe I'd experiment with it and find something I didn't even know I wanted.
I much like Quod Libet. It has a clean, functional interface to manage your local music collection. Also support for Plugins is nice.
You can create Boolean Logic filters like (played < 10 times AND genre = classical AND composer = Mozart) which I appreciate. And some of the included tools like being able to automatically create meta data tags from file names (for instance - - .mp3).
It's the best replacement for Music Bee (Windows only) that I've come across.
Audacious can correctly read and display winamp skin files (.wsz).
Get them from archive.org
97,133 search hits for 'winamp skin' are listed.
https://archive.org/search?query=winamp+skin
One of the old classic skins was sketch_skin
https://archive.org/details/winampskin_sketch_skin
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For some reason I use YouTube music most of the time.
Vlc would be my choice for local. And maybe a jellyfin for my server.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/14841305
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Archinstall 2.8 installer for the Arch Linux distribution is now available to increase the default size of the ESP system partition to 1GB.Marius Nestor (9to5Linux)
I own a ThinkPad X1 Tablet (Gen 2) - but the only thing that matters is that it is just a tablet with a touchscreen and Wacom pen.
When doing handwriting on it (using Rnote) I become very annoyed, because as soon as the stylus loses the hover signal (only about 1.5 cm) the rest of my hand starts moving the canvas. As I tend to pull the pen far from the paper often this is really an issue.
When using Windows for the first time (with Windows Ink) I remember palm rejection working exceptionally well, even without using the pen - it just magically knows that this is part of my hand and not a finger. Also from what I remember any touch that started while the pen was hovering will not be registered even when the pen gets pulled away (you have to stop touching the screen and then touch it again)
Is there any way to improve the palm rejection on Linux (I'm using Gnome with Wayland btw) By the way, is there a way to scroll with the stylus like on Windows? And are there any good handwriting utilities for Wayland (I've only heard of CellWriter but it doesn't work well at all)?
Thanks!
I reported basically this issue a few months back with another Lenovo device. Sadly there was no other activity towards resolving this.
Maybe you can bring in some new information if you can confirm, that you have the same issue.
In essence the hover recognition distance greatly reduces when touch input is present causing these jumps to happen with the palm because when writing any lifting off the pen will reactivate touch.
Summary When using the "Lenovo Precision Pen 2 (2023)" on a "Lenovo Yoga 9 14IAP7" the stylus-touch arbitration only ignores touch...GitLab
This sounds like it needs a bounty. If there is nobody paying developers to make Linux work for their artsy stuff, this doesnt work.
Most devs simply dont use tablets as they dont make sense for development. So the normal flow is artsy people pay money, developers do the code.
This is a huge reason why we have nice code editors nut no Photoshop alternative for example. At least I think so.
This is a huge reason why we have nice code editors nut no Photoshop alternative for example.
Mostly speculation:
I think that's just a time and money issue. Blender was behind Autodesk for a long time, but nowadays it's a real alternative that offers extra features.
Gimp, Krita, and other Adobe alternatives are still in that earlier phase where they're not yet good enough to get funding from studios and companies using it.
Gimp, Krita, and other Adobe alternatives are still in that earlier phase
Yeah possibly. I think the enshittification of Adobe stuff will help here. But calling that software "early phase" is brave, as it had all the time to get established
I mean it's definitely not new software, but I meant it in the context of commercial adoption. Let's hope conversions and money starts rolling in when the gimp redesign comes out.
It's pretty hard to get established if your competition drops millions while you have pennies. Same as Linux Vs win and mac on desktop.
You can already try GIMP beta, only as appimage poorly (or ubuntu ppa, works through distrobox) and report bugs.
It is pretty good, needs better defaults and it is crazy how GTK3 was the one where stuff started to get HUGE.
So you see buttons etc are bigger, not fitting the menus anymore. But it works, and it finally has color profiles and nondestructive filters, which are a base requirement for graphics design.
Edit: I found the solution! All I had to do was add the uid with my username, then I also had to add "forceuid" for it to actually go through. My fstab entry now looks like:
//192.168.1.21/Media-Library /mnt/Home-NAS/Media-Library cifs user=Jellyfin,password=password,uid=my_uid,forceuid,iocharset=utf8 0 0
Thank you @lemmyreader@lemmy.ml for posting the solution from Stack Exchange!
Hello! I have an Ubuntu server with a NAS mounted using cifs-utils, and I've created an entry in fstab for the share to be mounted at boot.
My fstab entry looks like this:
//192.168.1.21/Media-Library /mnt/Home-NAS/Media-Library cifs user=Jellyfin,password=password,iocharset=utf8 0 0
(The password is not actually "password" of course)
However, while I'm able to access the share perfectly fine, and even have a Jellyfin server reading from it, I cannot write files to the share without using sudo. I have some applications that manage metadata for music, and they're not able to change or add files in any way.
I am however able to access the share from my Fedora machine just fine with the same credentials, since I use KDE, I just added them to the default "Windows Share Credentials" setting. I don't have the issue where I have to use sudo to modify files, so I know it's just an issue with the share mounted to the server and not permission issues on the NAS itself.
What am I doing wrong?
That unfortunately didn't work, but I really do appreciate your response.
I just had to add an entry for my uid and then "forceuid", and it worked!
fstab runs as root and unless you specify otherwise, the share will mount with root as the owner on the local machine. From the perspective of the Samba server, it’s the Jellyfin user accessing the files, but on the local machine, but local permissions come into play as well. That’s why you can get at the files when you connect to the share from Dolphin in your KDE system—it’s your own user that’s mounting the share locally.
I think you should mount using gvfs or kiofuse and not fstab, to have user permissions?
Or use udisksctl
Here a post with similar question and an answer from two years ago where the OP claims that using uid= did not work :
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/687764/mount-t-cifs-only-mounts-as-root-and-no-longer-honours-uid-and-gid
From that link the comment starting with this paragraph below may work :
It occurs to me that as (a) I'm the only one accessing this share and (b) mode changes
are not written back to the CIFS filesystem anyway, it doesn't matter whether the mode
is 777 or 755. Therefore, the following fixes the issue:
I can only mount a remote cifs share as root even though I am using uid and gid with a valid user. This did work for years, with fstab remaining unchanged. I have been patching (this is openSUSE L...Unix & Linux Stack Exchange
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